Monday, December 5, 2011

Too Far

WARNING THE WORLD IS ENDING! …at least according to the internet

According to reports S. 1867 will end freedom in the United States by allowing for “permanent detention” of United States citizens.

The problem can best be summed up by my favorite Abraham Lincoln quote: “The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it’s difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine.

The fact is that rumors of our demise have been exaggerated. People on the left have been trying to take on the Department of Defense for awhile now, and they decided that S. 1867 was the way to do it. The real problem is that they have duped people on the right into joining them. 

Even conservative stalwart Senator Rand Paul gave a speech on the topic. 

But the fact is that this bill does not end civil rights in America. In fact, this bill doesn’t do what they say at all.

On page 426 of the bill there is a clause that allows the Armed Forces to detain covered persons from “subsection b”. The good news for people like me who hate federal law because it is so complicated is that subsection b is right there! It says that subsection b only includes those who were involved in the September 11 attacks, al-Qaeda, or the Taliban. 

This part of the law doesn’t change anything from the status quo. I know people who have corresponded with Senator DeMint, likely the most outspoken conservative in the US Senate, and they agree that the text itself does not do what they claim.

-Posted by Jeremiah Lorrig 


  1. A magnificent post! (Course even this post lied on you, I think he misquoted Abraham Lincoln)

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    Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI-3) (Gerald Ford's old district) says he and many other reps are more concerned about sec. 1021 (the bill's discretionary detention section) than sec. 1022(the bill's mandatory detention section).

    The subsection (B) limitation you mentioned in your post only applies to sec. 1022. There is no corresponding limitation for sec. 1021. Therefore, sec. 1021 isn't just limited to members of al-Qaeda who have planned or carried out attacks against the U.S. or its coalition partners.

    I'm not, of course, saying this bill is the end of the world. =) Failing to make this distinction, however, makes good conservative Republicans like Rep. Amash and Sen. Paul seem like they are spreading misinformation when they're probably not.

    That being said, I haven't yet watched the entire Sen. Paul video.